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Ringdown in the SYK model

by Matthew Dodelson

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Authors (as registered SciPost users): Matthew Dodelson
Submission information
Preprint Link: https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.05790v2  (pdf)
Date submitted: Feb. 19, 2025, 3:44 p.m.
Submitted by: Dodelson, Matthew
Submitted to: SciPost Physics
Ontological classification
Academic field: Physics
Specialties:
  • High-Energy Physics - Theory
Approaches: Theoretical, Computational

Abstract

We analyze thermal correlators in the Sachdev-Ye-Kitaev model away from the maximally chaotic limit. Despite the absence of a weakly curved black hole dual, the two point function decomposes into a sum over a discrete set of quasinormal modes. To compute the spectrum of modes, we analytically solve the Schwinger-Dyson equations to a high order in perturbation theory, and then numerically fit to a sum of exponentials using a technique analogous to the double cone construction. The resulting spectrum has a tree-like structure which is reminiscent of AdS black holes with curvature singularities. We present a simple toy model of stringy black holes that qualitatively reproduces some aspects of this structure.

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Current status:
Awaiting resubmission

Reports on this Submission

Report #2 by Anonymous (Referee 2) on 2025-4-25 (Invited Report)

Strengths

-Clear exposition with a well defined numerical algorithm

-Clever use of the Krylov basis

-Interpolation away and towards the holographic limit

Weaknesses

-Exposition in certain places could be a bit clearer (see report). Importantly it is not explained how to estimate $\beta_0$ in the infinite temperature theory.

Report

This is a nice paper that studies the spectrum of resonances in the $q$-SYK model at infinite temperature. This calculation reproduces the famed christmas-tree structure for low-$q$ and demonstrates a transition to a straight line as $q\rightarrow\infty$. A cute toy model of this transition is given in section 5.

I think this paper should be published subject to an explanation of how one estimates the radius of convergence $\beta_0$. I could not find this explained in the manuscript, despite looking through it several times. Perhaps I missed something.

Requested changes

Please explain more prominently how $\beta_0$ is determined for this model.

Recommendation

Publish (surpasses expectations and criteria for this Journal; among top 10%)

  • validity: high
  • significance: high
  • originality: high
  • clarity: high
  • formatting: perfect
  • grammar: perfect

Report #1 by Anonymous (Referee 1) on 2025-4-21 (Invited Report)

Strengths

See the report.

Weaknesses

See suggested changes.

Report

This is a very interesting paper that has taken the studies of the spectra of thermal correlator a significant step forward. In an impressive numerical calculation, the author has computed the spectrum of the SYK model away from maximal chaos limit. This is the first such calculation and the author has shown a numerical algorithm which the community will be able to use in the future to perform similar calculations.

The main result is that the spectrum remains meromorphic, which is a very important statement. To some, this may have been expected and to some, a surprise. Regardless, the answer seems very clear and will provide a useful and invaluable benchmark in the future. Hence, the paper certainly eventually deserves to be published by SciPost. In order to make the presentation clearer, below, I suggest a number of small improvements to the text.

Requested changes

  1. It would be nice to explain more about the SYK model itself. For example, why we think of the maximal chaos limit as the `strongly coupled' limit, or, more accurately, as analogous to the large-N limit of higher dimensional models.

  2. I'm not sure that I like the aesthetics of the figures (e.g., the sizes of dots depending on the residue), but I do leave this up to the author to decide. Also, $d_n$ could be more clearly defined in Section 4 so that one doesn't have to search through the previous sections.

  3. Is there any sense in which one could claim that there are several branches of QNMs visible in the spectrum similar to the holographic calculation in [10]? Figure 3 kind of looks like that but it's hard to say.

  4. I think it would be very interesting to plot the spectral functions as a functions of real omega. I'm thinking of this along the lines of

  5. https://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0602059
  6. https://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0602044
  7. https://arxiv.org/abs/1806.10997 Spectral functions themselves can teach us a lot about the transition of the physical spectrum from strong to weak coupling.

Recommendation

Ask for minor revision

  • validity: high
  • significance: top
  • originality: high
  • clarity: high
  • formatting: excellent
  • grammar: perfect

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