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Quantum adiabaticity in many-body systems and almost-orthogonality in complementary subspace
by Jyong-Hao Chen and Vadim Cheianov
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Submission summary
| Authors (as registered SciPost users): | Jyong-Hao Chen |
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| Preprint Link: | scipost_202411_00033v1 (pdf) |
| Date submitted: | Nov. 18, 2024, 9:57 a.m. |
| Submitted by: | Jyong-Hao Chen |
| Submitted to: | SciPost Physics |
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| Academic field: | Physics |
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| Approaches: | Theoretical, Computational |
Abstract
We investigate why, in quantum many-body systems, the adiabatic fidelity and the overlap between the initial state and instantaneous ground states often yield nearly identical values. Our analysis suggests that this phenomenon results from an interplay between two intrinsic limits of many-body systems: the limit of small evolution parameters and the limit of large system sizes. In the former case, conventional perturbation theory provides a straightforward explanation. In the latter case, a key insight is that pairs of vectors in the Hilbert space orthogonal to the initial state tend to become nearly orthogonal as the system size increases. We illustrate these general findings with two representative models of driven many-body systems: the driven Rice-Mele model and the driven interacting Kitaev chain model.
Author indications on fulfilling journal expectations
- Provide a novel and synergetic link between different research areas.
- Open a new pathway in an existing or a new research direction, with clear potential for multi-pronged follow-up work
- Detail a groundbreaking theoretical/experimental/computational discovery
- Present a breakthrough on a previously-identified and long-standing research stumbling block
Current status:
Reports on this Submission
Report #2 by Anonymous (Referee 2) on 2025-5-2 (Invited Report)
- Cite as: Anonymous, Report on arXiv:scipost_202411_00033v1, delivered 2025-05-01, doi: 10.21468/SciPost.Report.11129
Strengths
1- Pedagogical tone 2- Few typos/grammatical mistake
Weaknesses
1- Unclarity of the significance of the results 2- Some confusing statements
Report
After the introduction, the authors introduce their setup in Sec. 2, introducing the results in [37,38].
In Sec. 3, they discuss when the orthogonality limit (19) holds true, which sets the tighter bound for the difference between $\mathcal{F}$ and $\mathcal{C}$.
In particular, this limit is achieved either by (i) perturbatively considering small $\lambda$ or (ii) assuming the almost orthogonality of states for large $\lambda$.
In Sec. 4, different types of bounds, e.g., inequality (29), are obtained.
In Sec. 5, the authors verify their inequalities using the non-interacting fermionic systems.
In Sec. 6, they discuss the difference in the rates of the decrease for the quantities in their bound.
In Sec. 7, another example of an interacting Hamiltonian is discussed.
In Sec. 8, they summarize the results and state some outlooks.
In my opinion, while this paper has some new results, it is not suitable for publication in SciPost Physics.
The main reason for this evaluation is that the obtained results are not significant enough to warrant SciPost.
In my view, this manuscript mainly tries to resolve a question raised in Ref. [37], which is considered to treat a rather specific problem.
Moreover, while the almost-orthogonality provided in this manuscript is newly applied to this problem, I do not find its significance in understanding the problem of adiabatic preparation.
Indeed, for large $\lambda$, $\mathcal{F}$ quickly decays, meaning that the adiabatic preparation breaks down (in agreement with the first referee's opinion).
I also find it difficult to see what is the most important result in this manuscript in the current presentation.
In conclusion, I think that this manuscript is not suited for SciPost Physics.
After all of the questions and comments given below are sufficiently addressed, I would recommend the manuscript for publication in SciPost Physics Core.
*I think that the inequality to bound $|\mathcal{F}-\mathcal{C}|$ with $\theta$, obtained in [37], should be explicitly written down around Eq. (6).
*After Eq. (18), the authors state that it remains unclear why the values of the adiabatic fidelity and the ground state overlap are nearly identical when the system size $N$ is sufficiently large (e.g., $N \geq 100$). However, in the conclusion, they state that "we demonstrated that these refined estimates perform well even for system sizes as small as $N = O(10^2)$, ... . These results distinctly outperform the previous estimates from Refs. [37,38], which are reliable only for system sizes no smaller than $N = O(10^3)$."
I think these statements are inconsistent.
*The place of Fig. 2 could be the same as where it is referred to in the main text.
*In Fig. 2, I cannot see how the bound (e.g., (29)) is good for a large $\lambda$ region because both sides are almost zero. I think one could consider a semi-log plot to see whether (29) really offers a good bound.
*In the first sentence in Sec. 5, what is the prime in $\mathcal{D}_\mathrm{un}$?
*There is an extra space at the end of the sentence after Eq. (32c).
*Could you elaborate on the relations about $\sqrt{\mathcal{D}_\mathrm{un}}$ in the sentence after Eq. (33)? I was not able to follow the discussion at first sight.
*I am confused about how the results obtained by the authors are better than the previous ones. In Sec. 5, the authors present the bounds based on $g$ (Eq. (35)) and $f$ (Eq. (37)), which they say come from Eqs. (16) and (18), respectively. While Eq. (16) is the previously known bound, Eq. (35) seems to be better than Eq. (37), questioning the advantage of the new inequality (18). Am I misunderstanding something?
Requested changes
1- Please clearly write the motivation, their main result, and its significance. 2- Please consider all of the comments above and reflect them in the manuscript.
Recommendation
Accept in alternative Journal (see Report)
Report #1 by Anonymous (Referee 1) on 2025-1-31 (Invited Report)
- Cite as: Anonymous, Report on arXiv:scipost_202411_00033v1, delivered 2025-01-31, doi: 10.21468/SciPost.Report.10580
Strengths
1- pedagical presentation 2- clear writing 3- combination of analytical results and numerical examples
Weaknesses
1- unclear motivation 2- lack of discussion of relevant literature
Report
Overall, the manuscript takes a somewhat pedagogical approach, explaining step by step the ingredients needed for their result. I think this approach is fine, but it was difficult to me to see what in the end the precise statement is that the authors want to make. In my personal opinion, technical papers like the present one could be improved by having a "Summary and main result" Section II, in which the main assumptions are outlined and the main result is presented.
In a sense, the result is surprising: if the adiabatical fidelity and the overlaps of the instantaneous ground states are similar, then either (i) both are large, and nothing has happened (because the ground state is still essentially the same as at t=0), or (ii) both are small (the case the authors are interested in, in which case adiabatic preparation has failed, because the adiabatic fidelity is zero. Neither regime really can be called adiabatic state preparation. If adiabatic state preparation succeeds, then adiabatic fidelity should be large, and the overlap with the initial ground state small.
The difference seems to be that the authors consider a linear ramp (Eq. (7)) with a constant driving rate. Typically, when adiabatic preparation is studied, the interpolation between initial and final Hamiltonian is smooth (e.g. Gevrey class or approximations thereof) and the ramp speed is scaled down with system size, to ensure high adiabatic fidelity. There is a large body of mathematical results many-body adiabatic state preparation that the authors seem to disregard. It would be useful to understand their result in the light of what is already rigorously known about adiabatic state preparation:
[1] Sabine Jansen, Mary-Beth Ruskai, and Ruedi Seiler. “Bounds for the Adiabatic Approximation with Applications to Quantum Computation”. In: J. Math. Phys. 48.10 (Mar. 2007), p. 102111. arXiv:0603175[quant-ph].
[2] G. Nenciu. “Linear Adiabatic Theory. Exponential Estimates”. In: Commun. Math. Phys. 152.3 (1993), pp. 479–496.
[3] George A. Hagedorn and Alain Joye. “Elementary Exponential Error Estimates for the Adiabatic Approximation”. In: Journal of Mathematical Analysis and Applications 267.1 (Mar. 2002), pp. 235–246.
[4] Yimin Ge, Andr´as Moln´ar, and J. Ignacio Cirac. “Rapid Adiabatic Preparation of Injective Projected Entangled Pair States and Gibbs States”. In: Phys. Rev. Lett. 116.8 (Feb. 2016). arXiv: 1508.00570.
[5] Sven Bachmann, Wojciech De Roeck, and Martin Fraas. “Adiabatic Theorem for Quantum Spin Systems”. In: Physical Review Letters 119.6 (Aug. 11, 2017), p. 060201. arXiv: 1612.01505.
[6] Sven Bachmann, Wojciech De Roeck, and Martin Fraas. “The Adiabatic Theorem and Linear Response Theory for Extended Quantum Systems”. In: Communications in Mathematical Physics 361.3 (Aug.2018), pp. 997–1027. arXiv: 1705.02838.
[7] Sven Bachmann, Wojciech De Roeck, and Martin Fraas. The Adiabatic Theorem in a Quantum Many-Body Setting. Mar. 18, 2019. arXiv: 1808.09985.
I did not spot major omissions in the manuscript, but I am sceptical that the problem studied is really a "long-standing research stumbling block", because the studied regime is not so relevant for adiabatic state preparation and I am thus not convinced by the motivation underlying the research. As a result, I recommend publication in a more specialized venue, for example SciPost Core.
Requested changes
1- Discussion of literature 2- Clearer presentation of the main result & setting
Recommendation
Accept in alternative Journal (see Report)
Author: Jyong-Hao Chen on 2025-09-14 [id 5814]
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Author: Jyong-Hao Chen on 2025-09-14 [id 5815]
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