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Topological transitions with continuously monitored free fermions

by Graham Kells, Dganit Meidan, Alessandro Romito

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Authors (as registered SciPost users): Alessandro Romito
Submission information
Preprint Link: https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.09787v3  (pdf)
Date accepted: 2022-10-13
Date submitted: 2022-08-25 12:43
Submitted by: Romito, Alessandro
Submitted to: SciPost Physics
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Academic field: Physics
Specialties:
  • Condensed Matter Physics - Theory
Approach: Theoretical

Abstract

We study a free fermion model where two sets of non-commuting non-projective measurements stabilize area-law entanglement scaling phases of distinct topological order. We show the presence of a topological phase transition that is of a different universality class than that observed in stroboscopic projective circuits. In the presence of unitary dynamics, the two topologically distinct phases are separated by a region with sub-volume scaling of the entanglement entropy. We find that this entanglement transition is well identified by a combination of the bipartite entanglement entropy and the topological entanglement entropy. We further show that the phase diagram is qualitatively captured by an analytically tractable non-Hermitian model obtained via post-selecting the measurement outcome. Finally we introduce a partial-post-selection continuous mapping, that uniquely associates topological indices of the non-Hermitian Hamiltonian to the distinct phases of the stochastic measurement-induced dynamics.

Author comments upon resubmission

Dear Editor,

We thank the referees for their comments and critiques. We feel that addressing these issues has greatly improved the manuscript.

Both referees acknowledge that the manuscript deals with an interesting and timely topic and recognize the importance of the new ideas and perspectives presented in the manuscript. However, both also comment on some shortcomings of the presentation. Indeed, one one referee comments that our central results are not elaborated on, and that the paper only “scratches the surface” of the potential of the introduced ideas.

While we acknowledge some shortcomings of the presentation, and we deal with these comments individually in the responses to the Referees' reports, we feel our work goes beyond scratching the surface and incorporates some new and innovative features that will yield many more fruitful results. Moreover, the potential for further research in no way minimizes the impact of this work. Indeed we think this is why the manuscript meets the criteria: “Open a new pathway in an existing or a new research direction, with clear potential for multipronged follow-up work”. Of course, we could always expand upon every aspect of our work. However, we feel that given the many avenues open to us from here, it is important that we first present these ideas and key initial findings as concisely and accurately as possible.

In the new iteration of the manuscript we have taken on-board the suggestions and criticisms to better highlight the main messages of the manuscript. For clarity we stress here the significance of our findings. Our work shows for the first time that competing continuous non-projective measurements in lattice fermionic systems can drive a topological entanglement transition between two area-law phases. In particular:

  1. We show that weak measurements drive a topological transition of a different universality class compared to projective measurements. This follows from the different critical behavior of the two models (see our detailed comment to referee 1 below).

  2. In the full (unitary + measurement) dynamical evolution, the model demonstrates an extended critical phase with a logarithmic entanglement scaling. In the new manuscript we show that the combination of S^top_L and S_L more clearly marks this critical scaling transition.

  3. Our analysis shows that the entanglement transition in the previously studied charge conserving model [Ref 45 (arXiv:2005.09722 )] ($\alpha= 0$ line) is non generic. In particular our numerical data does not point to a transition at finite measurement rate.

  4. We introduce a simple-to-apply model of partial post-selection that recovers the full post-selected dynamics (for which we can map the full phase diagram and associated topological indices) as a continuum limit of a family of models with stochastic dynamics. This allows one to interpolate between the fully stochastic dynamics and the post-selected models. We feel this approach will be invaluable in future studies.

We are confident that the new version can be published in Scipost Physics.

Sincerely,

Graham Kells, Dganit Meidan, Alessandro Romito

List of changes

- rewritten part of the abstract and changed part of the introduction to clarify the significance of our findings and polish the writing
- rephrased part of section II
- added paragraphs in section III to improve clarity
- added paragraphs to section IIIA to expand our comments on the results therein
- rewritten section IIIB to present in a new way the combined role of the entanglement entropy and topological entanglement entropy
- rephrased parts of section IIIC to clarify the role of the partial post-selection and and post-selection models
- rewritten part of the conclusions
- added new appendix B
- replaced Eq. (1) more more general formulation
-changed Eq. (7) for clarity
- rearranged Fig. 2
- changed Fig. 3 (c-d) to present the combined results of topological entanglement entropy and half-cut entanglement entropy
- added new Fig. 8 and Fig. 9 in Appendix B
- corrected typos
- added/updated references

Published as SciPost Phys. 14, 031 (2023)


Reports on this Submission

Anonymous Report 2 on 2022-10-8 (Invited Report)

  • Cite as: Anonymous, Report on arXiv:2112.09787v3, delivered 2022-10-08, doi: 10.21468/SciPost.Report.5851

Strengths

- studies new type of competition between two non-commuting, continuous measurement protocols
- the idea of non-ideal post-selection adds a new twist to the question of experimental realisations of measurement-induced dynamics
- a newly identified critical behavior, though not yet fully resolved, fuels the search for universality classes beyond the previously discovered ones in free fermion and unitary circuit models

Report

I acknowledge the authors' significant effort to rearrange and redo the manuscript. It is now very clear and very well structured. The results and their discussion are very accessible. All my previous criticism has been overcome.

Given the total package of strengths outlined above and the timeliness of the topic. I can fully recommend publication of the manuscript in SciPost physics.

  • validity: high
  • significance: high
  • originality: good
  • clarity: high
  • formatting: excellent
  • grammar: excellent

Anonymous Report 1 on 2022-8-26 (Invited Report)

Report

The authors have successfully addressed the main criticisms I presented in my past report. In addition, they have improved the manuscript readability, corrected previous typos and misleading sentences, and improved the formatting of the figures.

For these reasons, I believe the manuscript is now suitable for publication in Scipost Physics.

  • validity: high
  • significance: high
  • originality: good
  • clarity: high
  • formatting: good
  • grammar: excellent

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